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Cliche
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Post subject:  Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:37 pm |
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Ezer =GCHQ= wrote: Cliche wrote: You do need a decent branded PSU - you are looking 80-90 quid upwards tbh. Somthing like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/104476..?  a man of good taste - seasonic make some of the best psu's in the world  (I owned one)
I would still google it to see if you can get any reviews before laying down yr hard earned cash _________________ My weekly run in Kinder Scout (17 miles, 2000ft above sea level)http://tinyurl.com/4hcpn
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:18 pm |
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http://www.pcpro.co.uk/custompc/labs/26 ... ducts.html
They did a very comprehensive set of tests of stability and efficiancy. Its a bit old but the seasonic ones were very highly praised.
I will be getting one in my next upgrade cause I have a hoover at the moment, everything else is quiet
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:49 pm |
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Ezer =GCHQ= wrote: Cliche wrote: You do need a decent branded PSU - you are looking 80-90 quid upwards tbh. Somthing like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/104476..? definately (thumbs up)
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Ezer =GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:40 am |
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[QBS]Dr.Strangelove wrote: Ezer =GCHQ= wrote: Cliche wrote: You do need a decent branded PSU - you are looking 80-90 quid upwards tbh. Somthing like this: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/104476..? definately (thumbs up) Ok... bought and installed said PSU, formatted and re-installed Windows (was long overdue), installed all the latest drivers... run the HL2:Lost Coast video stress test and.....
did the same bloody thing again! 
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:08 am |
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ur pcie wire from the psu is in the card right?
my next guesses would be either
drivers
mobo power problem
graphics card problem
p.s. what mobo do you have?
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:55 am |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: ur pcie wire from the psu is in the card right?
my next guesses would be either
drivers
mobo power problem
graphics card problem
p.s. what mobo do you have?
It's got the power straight from the PSU into the card, double checked it.
It's an MSI K8N Neo4-F motherboard, and I'm using the latest NVidia drivers, the 91.47 version. Also the latest drivers off the MSI website for the board, and none of the crappy little utilities that MSI offer are installed as I've had nightmares with them in the past.
The graphics card is one of these:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/105498
which is now discontinued!
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:20 am |
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it MAY be driver related, perhaps try Beta drivers, but if it was working fine before it probly isn't that
at a guess
if it isn't a driver issue, kinda sounds like a fault in either the power regulator on the graphics card or a power issue with the mobo
if you go here and post
http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.php
you may find someone who can advise you better, always good to get multiple opinions - i rec the pc games section for general pc problems like this _________________ ----------------------------------------
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Ezer =GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:32 am |
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Mike =GCHQ= wrote: it MAY be driver related, perhaps try Beta drivers, but if it was working fine before it probly isn't that at a guess if it isn't a driver issue, kinda sounds like a fault in either the power regulator on the graphics card or a power issue with the mobo if you go here and post http://www.avforums.com/forums/index.phpyou may find someone who can advise you better, always good to get multiple opinions - i rec the pc games section for general pc problems like this I have my suspicions about the drivers.... this only started to happen after I updated the drivers to the one's before the version I'm using now.. could be a coincidence..? _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:37 am |
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boom headshot..
yer i think this could very well be driver related now you've said that, try either the BETA drivers, or going back to the old ones you were using
find a program called driver cleaner and remove all nvidia display drivers if you want to make sure there's no problems caused by installing different versions.
always uninstall in add/remove first don't install over the old drivers..
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:26 pm |
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what exactly is this?
as i've never seen this before
i'm really gutted you're still having the same problems, despite buying a crackin psu 
when you have reformatted, what drivers are you installing? (in order)
without going into my own bios (just to check) have you made any changes @ all? (bios update?)
mobo drivers updated?
i know i'm clutching at straws
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:56 pm |
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[QBS]Dr.Strangelove wrote: what exactly is this? as i've never seen this before i'm really gutted you're still having the same problems, despite buying a crackin psu when you have reformatted, what drivers are you installing? (in order) without going into my own bios (just to check) have you made any changes @ all? (bios update?) mobo drivers updated? i know i'm clutching at straws That error's been posted about loads on t'internet, and there's also loads of suggestions about how to fix it.
Anyway, after fomatting this is what I did:
1. installed Windows XP Pro (including RAID / SATA drivers during set up)
2. installed mobo drivers (latest NF4 versions from the MSI site) and Anti Virus
3. installed video drivers (91.47 Nvidia)
4. installed audio drivers
5. did all the Windows Updates
6. re-installed all Steam games and tried HL2
7. PC blew up again!
Oh yeah, and I set my CPU back to it's stock speeds as it had been overclocked (running perfectly stable for 6 months mind you so I doubt that's a problem).
Going to try Mike's idea and roll back to previous drivers, I do remember changing them 2-3 weeks back which is when I started having the problems, I'm fairly sure it's NOT the PSU that's the problem now... 
EDIT: that didn't work, I managed about 5-6 seconds of the Lost Coast and FEAR stress tests before the machine locked up... _________________
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:22 am |
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bit concerned you had AV installed before graphic drivers 
is the right power lead connected to the graphics?
is it seated properly?
i have to ask the obvious just to satisfy my curiousity  also in the hope that something might click
gl fella
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:01 am |
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Check the capacitors on your mobo - if any are domed or leaking you need to get it repaired / replaced. Manufacturer should fix it for free...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:03 pm |
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[QBS]Dr.Strangelove wrote: bit concerned you had AV installed before graphic drivers is the right power lead connected to the graphics? is it seated properly? i have to ask the obvious just to satisfy my curiousity also in the hope that something might click gl fella I've tried removing the AV and trying the drivers again but no joy, fairly sure it's a hardware problem. Have also checked it's seated properly and tried different power cables. Quote: Check the capacitors on your mobo - if any are domed or leaking you need to get it repaired / replaced. Manufacturer should fix it for free...
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:48 pm |
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jeeeeeeeeeeeesus
just read about that sentinel problem on a boat load of forums
just re read entire thread
Ezer =GCHQ= wrote: I've tried re-wiring the power plugs so that the 2 that go into the card aren't supplying anything else, will see if that works first... forgive my n00bness, 2 plugs will it not work with just the one from the psu? Ezer =GCHQ= wrote: It's a Gainward 7800GT 512mb jobby, got it's own power supply which is definitely plugged in!
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