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3jorn
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Post subject: New computer  Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:21 pm |
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Need a computer. Sick of playing on my 4 year old laptop 
How much money would I be needing for a decent comp, that can run most games smoothly.
It doesn't have to be top of the line - I mostly play CSS anyways, but want good FPS and no hardware lag.
I can build it myself. Need a monitor too. No need for keyboard nor mouse.
I want to spend as little as possible, but I want it to be good though.
Any specs and price estimates? 
cheers
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Magoo=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:27 pm |
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Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 "LGA775 Conroe" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)
LiteON LH-20A1P-487C 20x DVD±RW x12 Ram Dual Layer DVD-Writer
Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
Creative X-Fi Xtreme Audio 7.1 Soundcard - OEM
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g)
Noctua NH-U12F (Socket LGA775/754/939/940/AM2) Heatsink
Samsung SpinPoint T HD501LJ 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM
BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC2 320MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
DFI Infinity 975X (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard]
Antec TruePower Trio 550W PSU
Samsung SM-226BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 2ms response
2Gb Geil RAM
costs £1136.41, look for parts next model down for lower costs....
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Mike=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:34 pm |
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you going to be looking at about £700-900
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Chips=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:46 pm |
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Looked about the other day mate, I am more of a budget person - I don't want to spend a few k on a system... indeed, over £500 and my wallet will flatly refuse to open.
So here's the system i came up with... I am positive some will completely disagree with some selections, but this is a budget... and a tight one. Thought i'd offer the alternative though, and the added bonus is that in 2 years your system will have lost around £300 in value, instead of £900 
All the links are FUBAR as the forum software is stupid.
So copy and paste instead, sorry :/
Tower case - not much to it, it holds stuff. http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(17035)Trendsonic-Mid-itower-Case-Black-Silver-400W.aspx
Power Supply - cheap and affordable, needs more research on what it puts out on the "rails" power wise. May need upgrading to one that outputs more due to GFX cards etc. http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(12394)650W-Silent-ATX-PSU-SATA-cable-12cm-fan-20-4-pin.aspx
Motherboard - I like Asus, what else needs to be said, someone fill me in if it's lacking please! http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(14021)Asus-M2N32SLI-Deluxe-AM2-Skt940-nForce-570SLI.aspx
CPU - Amd http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(16299)AMD-CPU-AM2-Athlon-64-Dual-Core-5600-Retail.aspx
Memory - Corsair http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(15884)Corsair-2024MB-TwinX-XMS2-6400-DDR2-Memory.aspx
DvD re-writer http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(17154)LG-GSAH30NBAL-16x-SATA-DVD-RRWRAM-DL-Black-oem.aspx
HDD [url[]http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(13606)250GB-Seagate-Barracuda-SATA-II-300-7200rpm.aspx[/url]
GFX - chosen for DirectX 10 compatible/ready or whatever it is - but also NOT busting my budget http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(17160)XFX-GeForce-8600-GTS-256MB-DDR3-PCIE-DVI--675mhz.aspx
Not bought it yet, but that's what I think a reasonably good budget system would be mate - for what it's worth Sure someone will correct the gaps where it may be bad or incompatible (yet to really check i linked all the right socket cpu to the right socket mobo for instance - but can't be arsed to check now ).
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:54 pm |
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only thing i think is definitely in need of a change in chip's spec is the PSU, with a system that powerful you should be spending £80-100
perhaps also.. if there are intel conroes at similar price then go for them
also SLI may be a waste
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3jorn
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:02 pm |
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thanks all, give give it a look
(need to pass the wife-exam )
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Tao
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:06 pm |
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I'd agree and get a better PSU, I wouldnt trust one that cheap.
I have a list somewhere for a e6600 ssytem that costs about £500 I'll post it up later.
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Magoo=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 1:08 pm |
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mine wasnt too expensive, the monitow was a bit hit, possibly get cheaper elsehwere..
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:17 pm |
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best thing to do is find out what your limit is then you can look at what parts to buy.intel are going to drop their prices again in june (i think) from what ive read so i would also wait a little while.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:22 pm |
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Quote: PSU Manufacturer: Various
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH
Antec case & psu, about £150
Mobo, about £40 (965 chipset)
CPU, about £130 (6600 or summat)
Graphics - £100 for current or £230 for next gen (X1950xt or 8800GTS 640mb)
Memory £50 (2x 1gb corsair xms2)
HDD & DVD RW and extras, £100 (samsung spinpoint 250gb, AIO dvd rw and cpu cooler)
£570 to £700
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 2:48 pm |
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o-iii<0 8ilbo=GCHQ= wrote: Quote: PSU Manufacturer: Various ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHAntec case & psu, about £150 Hmmn 2hrs 21 minutes.  
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 3:15 pm |
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It's a PSU, they aren't that difficult to manufacture reliably and the parts used should not account for 4 times the price... they are creaming a profit 
I wouldn't be surprised if the company that actually makes the PSU's for all those companies who are "branded" so to speak don't utilise the same components and create the same "unbranded" variations, potentially with minor variations - but nothing drastic. After all, it's just circuitry, and what can they really change apart from perhaps using silver instead of copper?
Just like with trainers, food, and nearly everything else in the world
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:21 pm |
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Chips wrote: It's a PSU, they aren't that difficult to manufacture reliably and the parts used should not account for 4 times the price... they are creaming a profit I wouldn't be surprised if the company that actually makes the PSU's for all those companies who are "branded" so to speak don't utilise the same components and create the same "unbranded" variations, potentially with minor variations - but nothing drastic. After all, it's just circuitry, and what can they really change apart from perhaps using silver instead of copper? Just like with trainers, food, and nearly everything else in the world You'd think that wouldnt you......dont risk it.
Hundred quid might be pushing it. But get branded at least.
Cheap GFX cards smell toasty when they blow.....
Cheap PSUs make cheap GFX card, Cheap CPU, Cheap Memory, Cheap HDs, cheap sound cards, cheap wireless cards...smell toastier.....
Its not worth not spending the extra.
And naturally you'll speak to 10 other ppl that use their 10 yr old scalextric PSU to run a £1000 rig for 4 years....but its the 11th guy thats crying......
I'm in an abstract mood.....i should paint
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 4:22 pm |
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Chips wrote: It's a PSU, they aren't that difficult to manufacture reliably and the parts used should not account for 4 times the price... they are creaming a profit Mebbe there are but I have read tests that show that that is not always the case.
Likewise with everything else, while most of the time I'd agree with ya, sometimes you do pay for quality.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:22 pm |
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o-iii<0 8ilbo=GCHQ= wrote:
Antec case & psu, about £150
You can skip this bit I think, £100 or less should be fine for these items (1000 watts is not needed), but the rest that bilbo said is true enough. _________________ 
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