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LeBeourfCurtaine
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Post subject: Has MS crippled Vista? Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:13 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:10 pm Posts: 10184 Location: I watch you while you sleep
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From Tom's Hardware:
"As soon as Microsoft Vista arrives, things will change a bit. Windows XP is unable to tell physical processors apart, and it will distribute the processing of threads to all CPU cores as they are available. Whether the cores are located on one, two or multiple CPUs is irrelevant here, which can cause inter-processor thread-switching. This should be avoided, as it might entail the relocation of thread data as well - isn't that a nice new bottleneck!
Threads that were processed on one physical core might be handled by a different unit the next time they are being executed. If you now think of an Intel quad core created by putting two dual core processors into one physical processor package, you will realize that the Front Side Bus is the only way for inter-processor communication and main memory access.
In a worst case Windows XP scenario, processing unit A has to wait until unit B completes memory access. Then A accesses the memory to fetch data, which it stores in its L2 cache to provide it locally for processing. If, however, Windows assigns the thread to CPU B, it will have to fetch the current data from A's L2 cache, causing additional Front Side Bus traffic. For coherency and performance reasons, data cannot be fetched from the main memory again at this point, since it was already processed. In the end, all of the elements involved are slowed down by this manoeuvre.
Windows Vista Ultimate Edition will be able to tell processors or nodes apart from simple processing cores. This allows the operating system to assign threads in a more resource-efficient manner: one large task can be executed exclusively on CPU A, while another huge workload runs autonomously on CPU B. Inter-processor task switching is eliminated due to the enhanced hardware awareness of Vista Ultimate, and performance will scale much better with increased core count per processor."
Does this mean that all other version of Vista have been hobbled on the performance front? That's astonishing if this is the case
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elbow=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:20 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:44 pm Posts: 7821 Location: banging with enamor
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Hopefully is an editorial error
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LeBeourfCurtaine
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:30 pm |
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Joined: Thu Mar 18, 2004 11:10 pm Posts: 10184 Location: I watch you while you sleep
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Doesn't look like it judging by the closing line of the conclusion:
"But again, we cannot say we're particularly convinced that we should spend a lot of money on a motherboard and expectedly $400 on Vista Ultimate in January."
_________________ The Pancreas of S.T.F.U. | Never take life too seriously - nobody gets out alive anyway. Disco_jim: um..... I have no excuse. | Chips: Thank the Beef | Rev Dr: Beef, I think i wee'd a little
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elbow=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:38 pm |
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Comin' outta Gallifrey |
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Joined: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:44 pm Posts: 7821 Location: banging with enamor
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well bugger me sideways....
_________________ “There are some people in this world who don’t love their fellow man, and I HATE people like that!”
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happyslappy
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Post subject: yup Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:46 pm |
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that was a stupid comment btw |
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Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:40 pm Posts: 109345 Location: manchester
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its true
wont affect games / normal everyday stuff though which most people will be using it for as there usually single threaded apps
will help in video encoding etc though
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gemma=GCHQ=
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:35 pm |
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Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:14 pm Posts: 3549 Location: Bonneville salt flats.
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I read that when it was published, I missed the part requiring Ultimate Edition though. That really sux, what are they thinking. It makes me cry. Sod 'em.
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